SEA/NYY Trade

Accept, man this one took some serious negotiating. All in all I'm weak at 3B and hope seager can return to that 2016 form. Lost a couple prospects but none I'm worried about becoming major stars. My building process in just the first few weeks is coming into form and what I'm wanting for a roster. If seager has ayear like last year I might be in the short send but we'll see. Thanks Robin!

I think even you, Cody, are undervaluing Seager. He is a solid everyday player which is hard to come by in this league, though his salary is outrageous and made it tough to find a trade partner. Seager for Fowler doesnt work because of the money and OBP is pretty important in an OBP league, so Healy is a downgrade from Seager by a decent margin in my opinion. I did this trade to get some fresh blood on the roster, get younger and to roll the dice. Fowler has upside but comes with question marks, Widener is a prospect on the rise, and Enlow is the lottery ticket I liked him coming out of the draft in 17 and think he has good upside. Good trade Josh, sad to see one of my favorite Mariners go.

I see this as far closer to an even deal than Cleveland does. Sure, Seager's contract is underwater but he's certainly a better hitter than Healy and plays 3B, where Healy is limited to 1B and no sure thing for playing time. Maybe it comes down to the opinion of Fowler and Widener. Fowler doesn't seem to have upside of even an everyday player in my mind - with low OBP and low power potential he doesn't seem like he should be coveted in this format. We've seen plenty of pitchers with below-average stuff and better than average upper minors stats fizzle out in the big leagues, so Widener seems riskier than Cleveland is letting on too.

THIS JUST IN, RYON HEALY HAD A HIGHER OBP LAST YEAR THEN SEAGER.

Seager isn't a better hitter then Healy, they're equivalent with Seager continuing to decline, at least Healy is only 27 and is conceivably entering his prime.   So what he plays 1B, he can play 3 positions here just like Seager and who cares about position eligibility when your guy was the like the 20th best at his position anyway? Healy was ranked about the same at 1B as Seager was at 3rd, and it's not as if 1B is super deep anyway so I don't see how he's positionally that much better.

Healy has been an equivalent or better hitter for 2 straight years over Seager, one could argue he carried similar proportional to playing time value to Seager for 3 years as well (Yeah it was likely an aberration for Healy, but 2016 was also an aberration for Seager).  Bad luck? If anything the bad luck factor is much more in favor for Healy then Seager. Healy improved his K/BB and maintained his ISO indicating he's improving as a hitter, while Seager saw significant losses in those same cats for two straight years. So bad that his K-BB and ISO are now almost identical to Ryon. Seager's career BABIP is 280, so even if we factor in bad luck and push him back to career regulars, he's a 240/300 guy while pushing Healy to career norms he's a 270/320 hitter last year. Seager still puts the ball in the air more and hits it harder, so he has that going for him I guess.

All that and Seager carries 36(26M If we're being generous) in both surplus and excess contract value. Healy is at least performing to his contract. Further if I'm taking bets as to which one is more likely to maintain performance I'm saying Healy, and would shortsell Seager thinking he will continue to decline in value. I do think there is intrigue as a bounce back if he can fix his discipline, or maybe they ban the shift, but he just got sold at close to pre 2017 values.

I'm with CLE, except I feel Healy is the more attractive player here and would have been fine in a straight up trade, one could even make the case for Healy and Fowler (I don't really like Fowler) because of PT concerns (Though I don't see an Aging Bruce/EE or even Seager himself as hurdles if Healy starts playing well and one of them suck) but retention, Fowler and specs are just overkill.  

I need a cigarette.