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Post by Philadelphia Phillies (Paul) on Jan 24, 2020 7:24:26 GMT -8
Phillies send: Paul Goldschmidt, $38.9MM, 2021-22P ($20MM retained by MIN through 2021) Mallex Smith, $4.5MM, 2021-22P Rays send: Jesus Sanchez Andrew Vaughn MiLBFA 2nd Martin Prado, $2MM, 2020 (Paid Minors) Chad Sobotka, $600K, 2020-21T (Paid Minors) Branden Kline, $600K, 2020-21T (Paid Minors)
Phillies reasoning: - After a couple middling seasons, it's clear a retool approach isn't working for me, so I need to build a solid core. I think it could be done with the right MLB pieces but that's much harder to pry away from folks, so prospects (in this deal, at least) it is.
- Also, while I have an affinity for Goldy (I started following him shortly after he was drafted), he is declining and not as rock-solid as in his prime and he, alone, can't carry my team to the playoffs - obviously.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 7:50:34 GMT -8
Rays confirm
Rationale: I don’t take the decision to give up two top prospects lightly, it was going to take something more than a rental or short term fix that won’t have a real impact. I was hoping to make more of a splash in free agency but it looks like that won’t happen, so it became a matter of either trading for upgrades before that market exploded too, or going the other way and cashing out. With guys like Yelich, Baez and Gray under reasonable deals the next two years, Goldy and Smith both fit the former timeline and locks me into the 2020-21 plan.
Basically it came down to is it a market value deal and is it practical for the franchise? The first one is yes, as much as I don’t like giving up Vaughn and Sanchez, looking at real life deals for controllable big names for multiple years like Chris Archer, Jose Quintana and pre-MVP Yelich, giving up two top 100 guys and one of them being top 10-20 fit that real life template.
The practicality question was harder to answer. Goldy and Smith certainly both fill holes in the lineup. Smith’s season last year worried me but he was much better his first full season and in the minors offensively. Not to mention he can win me a category. Even on a ‘down’ year Goldy still put up solid power numbers with a decent OBP and I don’t think he’s at the age yet where last year was anything more than new team adjustment or indicative of real decline. Plus getting him at $18 million for the next two years helps given my real misgiving which was doing this deal and leaving myself limited cap space to shore up my depth and pitching.
Ultimately I decided the ability to add this much to my offense - and getting Goldy for likely three years (albeit the third at an expensive option) and Smith for at least two and solidify my starting lineup with still a modicum of cap space left was too much to pass up.
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Post by Los Angeles Dodgers (Jon) on Jan 24, 2020 20:39:42 GMT -8
+10 Philly
I like the building blocks and pick the Phillies are picking up here and they’re saving a ton of money too. Also, not too optimistic about Goldschmidt going forward.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 21:01:26 GMT -8
I'm close to even maybe +3 to Phillies. The 18M price tag for Goldy makes this closer for me, full contract and I agree with Jon more. This is even better for the Phils because he doesn't have to pay the 20M retention, though 22 could be a problem for TB. I'm all in on Vaughn and there is scenarios where he could contribute as early as next year (you could say this year if you're super blindly optimistic about him).
Anyway nice to see a big name being moved like this.
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Post by Seattle Mariners (Robin) on Jan 25, 2020 23:06:33 GMT -8
Processed
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